stitchlady 3 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hi, I have been rocking illustrator hard for a few months now. i have done a handfull of vector designs for t-shirts but i plan on making some kind of logo-ish design for a snapback. for people who have created designs in illustrator that have ended up as embroidery designs on a hat or snapback or similar, are there any general objectives i should be considering in terms of going about it differently than for t-shirt designs? i'm new to this, but i'm guessing there might be some different things to consider, or parameters i should follow when making a design that will end up being threaded vs. printed? any help much appreciated 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/
candace 22 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 There are actually a lot of things to consider and look out for. But the best way to design for embroidery is to actually know embroidery before you start designing. It's not really cut and dry as to what you can and can't do. There are obvious things like letter height, and super fine detail, but to give you a list of things to look out for isn't really possible. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1680
nessa12 4 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 It really depends on the design, what it's going on, the size you want it to be, etc. It's really something you can only truly learn by experience and trial/error. There are just so many factors to consider. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1681
AlexAbramov 10 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I think the bigger question is are you planning on digitizing the designs by hand or are you thinking you can take the vector design and automatically generated a stitch file from it? If the second, don't be surprised when your automatically digitized design looks like crap when it sews out... 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1682
stitchlady 3 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 thx for replies. yea, i am going strictly off designs i'm making in illustrator. i wasn't expecting that tfalk, i anticipated that it would be a different animal, hence the post. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1683
stitchlady 3 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 any links you might know of where it breaks some of these basics down, a la embroidery 101? im just looking to make a design that is comparable to a sports team hat or a streetwear design that isn't too highly detailed, but maybe a step up from something very basic. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1684
denpopov 8 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 There are a lot of books out there on embroidery digitizing, some are good, others are a waste of money. I've used some tutorials, taken a lot of digitized designs and looked at how they were done, and mostly just a lot of trial and error. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1685
rosemary 14 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Can you take a vector design and automatically create a stitch file? Yes... The only people who will tell you it will produce a production ready design are the people who are selling the software. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1686
sherry 6 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Take a basic circle with a border. In most cases, automatic digitizing will create a file with 2 sections - the circle and the border. They will also most likely create both sections as fill patterns with no push/pull changes and no underlay. When you stitch it out, the circle will be usually be set to stitch from bottom to top. What your result will be will be wider left to right and shorter top to bottom because of no push/pull compensation and probably look more like an egg than a circle. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1687
rosemary 14 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The border will probably also come out as a fill pattern going left to right. It will also probably have really bad registration meaning it will not follow the underlying circle correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1688
candace 22 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Anyone hand digitizing would make the border a satin stitch (instead of a tatami aka fill pattern) that changes stitch direction as it goes around the circle. It will make a zig-zag around the circle instead of all stitches going just left to right. They would also add underlay to lock the circle to the underlying fabric and adjust the push/pull so you end up with a true circle instead of an egg. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1689
lindarnold 6 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Why dont you try out this, I think this will solve your problem for sure. Eliminate or enlarge fine text and detail. Eliminate small gradiant areas and thin outlines. Design for the typical hat design area, 2" high x 4" wide and viewed at a 3" distance. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1690
sherry 6 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If an element looks small in print it will be too small to embroider well especially on caps which are more difficult than flats because of the curved surface area. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1691
denpopov 8 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If you haven't designed for flat embroidery it would be helpful to try that first. If you have this digitized mention that the design is for caps because that will affect the set-up. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1692
lindarnold 6 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 When im doing small text I use Gunold Poly 60 with a 65/9 needle. I also increase the density ever so slightly to get the correct coverage. I've never needed to adjust the tension. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-1695
lefen 163 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I am trying to locate some designs and was wondering if you have seen them. I want to purchase them but cannot find the digitizer. I thought may be by contacting you you may be able to help please. Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-8172
diver361 6,474 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 On 6/3/2016 at 1:51 PM, lefen said: I am trying to locate some designs and was wondering if you have seen them. I want to purchase them but cannot find the digitizer. I thought may be by contacting you you may be able to help please. Custom digitizing order here Custom digitizing embroidery service Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment https://forum.embroideres.com/forums/topic/344-designing-in-illustrator-for-snapback-embroidery/#findComment-8173
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